ChatGPT Matchup Summary (Win Condition and Game Plan)
Byleth is strongest at midrange disjoints backed by projectile support, while Lucario is strongest at explosive close-range punish sequences and huge reward on hit.
Range tools can distort the opponent’s approach timing here, so the stable route is to force an entry, punish it, and convert into landing traps or ledge pressure.
The table shows reliable shield punishes on Up Smash, Up B, Side B, Dash Attack, and Down Smash, with OOS Nair, Up B, Grab, and OOS Uair showing up most often as the clean ways to take the turn back.
Do not force shield punishes on the relatively safer choices like Neutral Air, Forward Air, and Back Air. It is usually better to read the landing or ledge route and punish the next action.
Full Move Frame Quick Reference
| Opponent Move | Startup | On Shield | Byleth OOS Candidate Moves | Barely Missed Moves |
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| Jab 1 | 5 | -16 | -15 | -14 |
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| Jab 2 | 5 | -18 | -18 | -17 |
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| Jab 3 | 9 | -23 | -22 | -21 |
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| Forward Tilt | 12/15 | -12 | -11 | -8 |
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| Up Tilt | 6 | -22/-21 | -20/-20 | -18/-17 |
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| Down Tilt | 7 | -9 | -7 | -5 |
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| Dash Attack | 7 | -28/-27 | -26/-24 | -22/-20 |
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| Forward Smash | 19 | -27/-25 | -24/-26 | -19/-21 |
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| Up Smash | 15/19 | -37/-38 | -34/-36 | -30/-31 |
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| Down Smash | 16 | -28 | -25 | -21 |
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| Neutral Air | 10/18 | -2/-2 | -1/-2 | 0/-1 |
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| Forward Air | 7 | -6 | -6 | -5 |
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| Back Air | 13 | -10/-10 | -9/-9 | -7/-7 |
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| Up Air | 10 | -10/-10 | -9/-10 | -7/-9 |
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| Down Air | 4/11 | -10/-9 | -9/-9 | -8/-8 |
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| Neutral B | 9 (+8) | -26 | -25 | -23 |
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| Side B | (9)24 | -24/-30 | -19/-27 | -10/-24 |
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| Up B | 46 | -23/-31 | -22/-31 | -19/-29 |
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| Down B | 5 (Start of Counter) | — | ||
| Grab | 7 | — | ||
| Dash Grab | 10 | — | ||
| Pivot Grab | 11 | — |
Win Condition Checklist
- Use range to slow the approach, then convert the delayed response into a whiff punish and landing trap.
- After blocking Up Smash, Up B, Side B, Dash Attack, and Down Smash, answer immediately with OOS Nair, Up B, Grab, and OOS Uair so the opponent cannot keep the turn.
- Do not force immediate retaliation on Neutral Air, Forward Air, and Back Air; take the landing route, escape route, or ledge direction first.
- Prioritize kills through landing traps and ledge pressure while keeping your positional advantage intact.
Actions to Avoid
- Giving up your ranged leverage and turning the matchup into a raw scramble before your setup has value.
- Swinging after every blocked Neutral Air, Forward Air, and Back Air and feeding the whiff punish or reset the opponent wants.
- Chasing too deep for the kill and exposing Byleth’s own recovery or defensive weakness.
- Accepting a heavy swing at the ledge and letting the opponent cash in on their highest-reward situation.