ChatGPT Matchup Summary (Win Condition and Game Plan)
Fox wants to stop Simon’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Rapid Jab Finisher with OOS Nair (7f), OOS Dair (8f), Up Smash (8f), and Grab (10f), then force Simon back outside Rapid Jab and Forward Air to keep stage control.
In Fox vs Simon, the stable plan is to avoid playing directly into Simon’s Rapid Jab and Forward Air and take the landing or ledge route before Simon can reset.
The table shows that Simon’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Rapid Jab Finisher can be answered by Fox’s OOS Nair (7f), OOS Dair (8f), Up Smash (8f), and Grab (10f), so those overcommitments should be cashed out immediately.
For Fox, Simon’s Rapid Jab and Forward Air are still hard to hit immediately out of shield, so reading the landing spot or ledge route matters more than forcing an early swing.
Full Move Frame Quick Reference
| Opponent Move | Startup | On Shield | Fox OOS Candidate Moves | Barely Missed Moves |
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| Jab 1 | 5 | -21 |
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| Jab 2 | 3 | -23 |
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| Rapid Jab | 9/12/15… | — | ||
| Rapid Jab Finisher | 3 | -37 |
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| Forward Tilt | 12 | -8/-7 |
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| Up Tilt | 10 | -17 |
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| Down Tilt (1) | 7 | -31 |
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| Down Tilt (2) | 8 | -42/-28 |
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| Dash Attack | 10/13/16/19/22/24 | -26 |
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| Forward Smash | 24 | -28/-26 |
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| Up Smash | 16 | -27/-26 |
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| Down Smash | 14/20 | -33/-30/-27/-24 |
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| Neutral Air | 8… | -12/-11 |
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| Forward Air | 14 | -6/-5/-8 |
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| Back Air | 14 | -6/-5/-8 |
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| Up Air | 14 | -6/-5/-8 |
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| Down Air | 13 | -21/-23 |
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| Neutral B | 30 | -6 |
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| Side B | 19 | -15 |
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| Up B | 6/9/… | ** | ||
| Down B | 18 | ** | ||
| Grab | 10 | — | ||
| Dash Grab | 13 | — | ||
| Pivot Grab | 14 | — |
Win Condition Checklist
- Fox should not play directly into Simon’s Rapid Jab and Forward Air; wait for Simon’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Rapid Jab Finisher and answer with OOS Nair (7f), OOS Dair (8f), Up Smash (8f), and Grab (10f).
- After Fox blocks Simon’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Rapid Jab Finisher, pick the reachable option from OOS Nair (7f), OOS Dair (8f), Up Smash (8f), and Grab (10f) immediately.
- Fox should not mash after Simon’s Rapid Jab and Forward Air; take the landing route, escape route, or ledge route first.
- Fox should finish stocks by breaking Simon’s landing and recovery routes so Rapid Jab and Forward Air does not get more neutral reps.
Actions to Avoid
- Letting Simon start the exchange on Rapid Jab and Forward Air terms and giving Fox’s stage control away for free.
- Having Fox block Simon’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Rapid Jab Finisher but never answer with OOS Nair (7f), OOS Dair (8f), Up Smash (8f), and Grab (10f).
- Sending Fox too deep after Simon’s Rapid Jab and Forward Air and letting the reset punish the chase back.
- Panicking at the ledge as Fox and simplifying Simon’s Rapid Jab and Forward Air-driven advantage sequence.