ChatGPT Matchup Summary (Win Condition and Game Plan)
Ganondorf wants to stop Toon Link’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3 with Grab (10f), OOS Nair (10f), OOS Uair (11f), and OOS Bair (13f), then force Toon Link back outside Down Tilt and Neutral Air to keep stage control.
In Ganondorf vs Toon Link, the stable plan is to avoid playing directly into Toon Link’s Down Tilt and Neutral Air and take the landing or ledge route before Toon Link can reset.
The table shows that Toon Link’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3 can be answered by Ganondorf’s Grab (10f), OOS Nair (10f), OOS Uair (11f), and OOS Bair (13f), so those overcommitments should be cashed out immediately.
For Ganondorf, Toon Link’s Down Tilt and Neutral Air are still hard to hit immediately out of shield, so reading the landing spot or ledge route matters more than forcing an early swing.
Full Move Frame Quick Reference
| Opponent Move | Startup | On Shield | Ganondorf OOS Candidate Moves | Barely Missed Moves |
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| Jab 1 | 5 | -10 |
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| Jab 2 | 6 | -11 |
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| Jab 3 | 6 | -25 |
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| Forward Tilt | 9 | -11 |
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| Up Tilt | 8 | -11 |
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| Down Tilt | 9 | -6 |
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| Dash Attack | 7 | -13 |
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| Forward Smash | 16 | -22 |
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| Up Smash | 11 | -22 |
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| Down Smash | 9/17 | -29/-20 |
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| Neutral Air | 6/13 | -3/-4 |
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| Forward Air | 14 | -6 |
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| Back Air | 6 | -4 |
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| Up Air | 11 | -8/-9 |
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| Down Air | 17 | -17/-16 |
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| Z Air | 11 | -3 |
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| Neutral B | 18—60 | -12 to -6 |
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| Side B | 27 | -9 to -6 |
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| Up B (1) | 6… | -25 |
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| Up B (2) | 8… | — | ||
| Down B | — | — | ||
| Grab | 12 | — | ||
| Dash Grab | 14 | — | ||
| Pivot Grab | 15 | — |
Win Condition Checklist
- Ganondorf should not play directly into Toon Link’s Down Tilt and Neutral Air; wait for Toon Link’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3 and answer with Grab (10f), OOS Nair (10f), OOS Uair (11f), and OOS Bair (13f).
- After Ganondorf blocks Toon Link’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3, pick the reachable option from Grab (10f), OOS Nair (10f), OOS Uair (11f), and OOS Bair (13f) immediately.
- Ganondorf should not mash after Toon Link’s Down Tilt and Neutral Air; take the landing route, escape route, or ledge route first.
- Ganondorf should finish stocks by breaking Toon Link’s landing and recovery routes so Down Tilt and Neutral Air does not get more neutral reps.
Actions to Avoid
- Letting Toon Link start the exchange on Down Tilt and Neutral Air terms and giving Ganondorf’s stage control away for free.
- Having Ganondorf block Toon Link’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3 but never answer with Grab (10f), OOS Nair (10f), OOS Uair (11f), and OOS Bair (13f).
- Sending Ganondorf too deep after Toon Link’s Down Tilt and Neutral Air and letting the reset punish the chase back.
- Panicking at the ledge as Ganondorf and simplifying Toon Link’s Down Tilt and Neutral Air-driven advantage sequence.