ChatGPT Matchup Summary (Win Condition and Game Plan)
Yoshi is strongest when the double jump and sideways air drift make Ike swing too early, then Neutral Air, Forward Air, or Back Air take over the scramble. Trying to win the air first usually gives Yoshi exactly the kind of exchange he wants.
The more stable route is to make Yoshi spend the jump, then meet the landing with Back Air, Up Tilt, or Up Air. Egg Throw matters, but mostly as a cue to keep taking space toward the body instead of freezing on the projectile itself.
The table shows reliable shield punishes on Down Smash, Down B, Up B, Side B, and Forward Smash, with Grab, OOS Bair, OOS Nair, and OOS Fair appearing often enough to punish the panic options Yoshi uses to escape the corner.
Neutral Air, Forward Air, and Back Air are still poor places to mash. Holding the landing spot and shrinking the next jump path is much safer than trying to challenge the aerial drift immediately.
Full Move Frame Quick Reference
| Opponent Move | Startup | On Shield | Ike OOS Candidate Moves | Barely Missed Moves |
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| Jab 1 | 3 | -10 |
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| Jab 2 | 3 | -11 |
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| Forward Tilt | 5 | -16 |
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| Up Tilt | 8 | -16 |
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| Down Tilt | 8 | -9/-9/-10 |
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| Dash Attack | 10 | -19 |
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| Forward Smash | 14 | -27 |
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| Up Smash | 11 | -24 |
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| Down Smash | 7/22 | -33/-18 |
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| Neutral Air | 3 | -3/-4/-4 |
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| Forward Air | 16 | -6/-7 |
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| Back Air | 11/14/18 | -9/-8 |
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| Up Air | 5 | -3 |
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| Down Air | 16/18/20/22/24/26/28/30/32/34/36/38/41 | -14 |
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| Neutral B | 19 | — | ||
| Side B | 32 | -29 to -27 |
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| Up B | 16 | -30 |
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| Down B | 7/27, 19 | -32, -32 |
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| Grab | 14 | — | ||
| Dash Grab | 16 | — | ||
| Pivot Grab | 17 | — |
Win Condition Checklist
- Do not swing first into double-jump armor; wait for Yoshi to descend and cut the landing with the sword.
- After blocking Down Smash, Down B, Up B, Side B, and Forward Smash, answer immediately with Grab, OOS Bair, OOS Nair, or OOS Fair.
- After shielding Neutral Air, Forward Air, or Back Air, trap the landing and drift path instead of mashing immediately.
- Take stocks by cornering Yoshi and punishing high landings or ledge escapes, not by forcing pure aerial guesses.
Actions to Avoid
- Swinging into double-jump armor every time Yoshi leaves the ground.
- Mashing after every blocked Neutral Air, Forward Air, or Back Air and letting the drift reset the whole exchange.
- Staring at Egg Throw instead of using the moment to take space toward the body.
- Overchasing offstage for the kill and letting back air or the return jump flip stage control.