ChatGPT Matchup Summary (Win Condition and Game Plan)
Ken wants to stop Mii Gunner’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3 with Up B (5f), OOS Uair (8f), OOS Nair (9f), and Up Smash (9f), then force Mii Gunner back outside Forward Air and Up B (1) to keep stage control.
In Ken vs Mii Gunner, the stable plan is to avoid playing directly into Mii Gunner’s Forward Air and Up B (1) and take the landing or ledge route before Mii Gunner can reset.
The table shows that Mii Gunner’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3 can be answered by Ken’s Up B (5f), OOS Uair (8f), OOS Nair (9f), and Up Smash (9f), so those overcommitments should be cashed out immediately.
For Ken, Mii Gunner’s Forward Air and Up B (1) are still hard to hit immediately out of shield, so reading the landing spot or ledge route matters more than forcing an early swing.
Full Move Frame Quick Reference
| Opponent Move | Startup | On Shield | Ken OOS Candidate Moves | Barely Missed Moves |
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| Jab 1 | 5 | -17 |
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| Jab 2 | 4 | -18 |
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| Jab 3 | 6/12 | -20 |
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| Forward Tilt | 7 | -14 |
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| Up Tilt | 5 | -22 |
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| Down Tilt | 8 | -19 |
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| Dash Attack | 10 | -20 |
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| Forward Smash | 17… | -31 |
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| Up Smash | 11/15/19/23/27 | -22 |
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| Down Smash | 9/23 | -35/-19 |
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| Neutral Air | 8 | -7 |
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| Forward Air | 12 | -1 |
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| Back Air | 9 | -6 |
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| Up Air | 17… | -11/-10 |
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| Down Air | 20 | -12/-13/-12 |
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| Up B (1) | 10 | — | ||
| Up B (2) | 6/10 | ** | ||
| Up B (3) | ** | — | ||
| Grab | 6 | — | ||
| Dash Grab | 9 | — | ||
| Pivot Grab | 10 | — |
Win Condition Checklist
- Ken should not play directly into Mii Gunner’s Forward Air and Up B (1); wait for Mii Gunner’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3 and answer with Up B (5f), OOS Uair (8f), OOS Nair (9f), and Up Smash (9f).
- After Ken blocks Mii Gunner’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3, pick the reachable option from Up B (5f), OOS Uair (8f), OOS Nair (9f), and Up Smash (9f) immediately.
- Ken should not mash after Mii Gunner’s Forward Air and Up B (1); take the landing route, escape route, or ledge route first.
- Ken should finish stocks by breaking Mii Gunner’s landing and recovery routes so Forward Air and Up B (1) does not get more neutral reps.
Actions to Avoid
- Letting Mii Gunner start the exchange on Forward Air and Up B (1) terms and giving Ken’s stage control away for free.
- Having Ken block Mii Gunner’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3 but never answer with Up B (5f), OOS Uair (8f), OOS Nair (9f), and Up Smash (9f).
- Sending Ken too deep after Mii Gunner’s Forward Air and Up B (1) and letting the reset punish the chase back.
- Panicking at the ledge as Ken and simplifying Mii Gunner’s Forward Air and Up B (1)-driven advantage sequence.