ChatGPT Matchup Summary (Win Condition and Game Plan)
King Dedede wants to stop Mii Swordfighter’s Jab 2, Jab 3, and Forward Tilt with Grab (10f), OOS Nair (10f), OOS Uair (13f), and OOS Fair (16f), then force Mii Swordfighter back outside Jab 1 and Down Tilt to keep stage control.
In King Dedede vs Mii Swordfighter, the stable plan is to avoid playing directly into Mii Swordfighter’s Jab 1 and Down Tilt and take the landing or ledge route before Mii Swordfighter can reset.
The table shows that Mii Swordfighter’s Jab 2, Jab 3, and Forward Tilt can be answered by King Dedede’s Grab (10f), OOS Nair (10f), OOS Uair (13f), and OOS Fair (16f), so those overcommitments should be cashed out immediately.
For King Dedede, Mii Swordfighter’s Jab 1 and Down Tilt are still hard to hit immediately out of shield, so reading the landing spot or ledge route matters more than forcing an early swing.
Full Move Frame Quick Reference
| Opponent Move | Startup | On Shield | King Dedede OOS Candidate Moves | Barely Missed Moves |
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| Jab 1 | 6 | -9 |
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| Jab 2 | 6 | -12 |
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| Jab 3 | 6 | -26 |
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| Forward Tilt | 10 | -16 |
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| Up Tilt | 8 | -17 |
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| Down Tilt | 5 | -6 |
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| Dash Attack | 9 | -18 |
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| Forward Smash | 15 | -34/-34/-33 |
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| Up Smash | 11/14/21 | -32 |
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| Down Smash | 7/15 | -38/-28 |
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| Neutral Air | 10 | -5 |
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| Forward Air | 12/16/21 | -10/-9 |
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| Back Air | 10 | -4 |
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| Up Air | 11 | -4/-6 |
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| Down Air | 14… | -11 |
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| Up B (1) | 13/42 | -37 |
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| Up B (2) | 15/19/22/25/28/31/34 | -38 |
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| Up B (3) | 8 | -57 to -53 |
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| Up B (4) | 8/16/22/26/31/38/47 | ** | ||
| Grab | 6 | — | ||
| Dash Grab | 9 | — | ||
| Pivot Grab | 10 | — |
Win Condition Checklist
- King Dedede should not play directly into Mii Swordfighter’s Jab 1 and Down Tilt; wait for Mii Swordfighter’s Jab 2, Jab 3, and Forward Tilt and answer with Grab (10f), OOS Nair (10f), OOS Uair (13f), and OOS Fair (16f).
- After King Dedede blocks Mii Swordfighter’s Jab 2, Jab 3, and Forward Tilt, pick the reachable option from Grab (10f), OOS Nair (10f), OOS Uair (13f), and OOS Fair (16f) immediately.
- King Dedede should not mash after Mii Swordfighter’s Jab 1 and Down Tilt; take the landing route, escape route, or ledge route first.
- King Dedede should finish stocks by breaking Mii Swordfighter’s landing and recovery routes so Jab 1 and Down Tilt does not get more neutral reps.
Actions to Avoid
- Letting Mii Swordfighter start the exchange on Jab 1 and Down Tilt terms and giving King Dedede’s stage control away for free.
- Having King Dedede block Mii Swordfighter’s Jab 2, Jab 3, and Forward Tilt but never answer with Grab (10f), OOS Nair (10f), OOS Uair (13f), and OOS Fair (16f).
- Sending King Dedede too deep after Mii Swordfighter’s Jab 1 and Down Tilt and letting the reset punish the chase back.
- Panicking at the ledge as King Dedede and simplifying Mii Swordfighter’s Jab 1 and Down Tilt-driven advantage sequence.