ChatGPT Matchup Summary (Win Condition and Game Plan)
Kirby wants to stop Lucario’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3 with OOS Bair (9f), Grab (10f), OOS Nair (11f), and OOS Uair (11f), then force Lucario back outside Forward Tilt and Down Tilt to keep stage control.
In Kirby vs Lucario, the stable plan is to avoid playing directly into Lucario’s Forward Tilt and Down Tilt and take the landing or ledge route before Lucario can reset.
The table shows that Lucario’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3 can be answered by Kirby’s OOS Bair (9f), Grab (10f), OOS Nair (11f), and OOS Uair (11f), so those overcommitments should be cashed out immediately.
For Kirby, Lucario’s Forward Tilt and Down Tilt are still hard to hit immediately out of shield, so reading the landing spot or ledge route matters more than forcing an early swing.
Full Move Frame Quick Reference
| Opponent Move | Startup | On Shield | Kirby OOS Candidate Moves | Barely Missed Moves |
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| Jab 1 | 5 | -16 | -15 | -14 |
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| Jab 2 | 5 | -18 | -18 | -17 |
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| Jab 3 | 9 | -23 | -22 | -21 |
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| Forward Tilt | 12/15 | -12 | -11 | -8 |
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| Up Tilt | 6 | -22/-21 | -20/-20 | -18/-17 |
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| Down Tilt | 7 | -9 | -7 | -5 |
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| Dash Attack | 7 | -28/-27 | -26/-24 | -22/-20 |
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| Forward Smash | 19 | -27/-25 | -24/-26 | -19/-21 |
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| Up Smash | 15/19 | -37/-38 | -34/-36 | -30/-31 |
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| Down Smash | 16 | -28 | -25 | -21 |
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| Neutral Air | 10/18 | -2/-2 | -1/-2 | 0/-1 |
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| Forward Air | 7 | -6 | -6 | -5 |
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| Back Air | 13 | -10/-10 | -9/-9 | -7/-7 |
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| Up Air | 10 | -10/-10 | -9/-10 | -7/-9 |
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| Down Air | 4/11 | -10/-9 | -9/-9 | -8/-8 |
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| Neutral B | 9 (+8) | -26 | -25 | -23 |
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| Side B | (9)24 | -24/-30 | -19/-27 | -10/-24 |
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| Up B | 46 | -23/-31 | -22/-31 | -19/-29 |
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| Down B | 5 (Start of Counter) | — | ||
| Grab | 7 | — | ||
| Dash Grab | 10 | — | ||
| Pivot Grab | 11 | — |
Win Condition Checklist
- Kirby should not play directly into Lucario’s Forward Tilt and Down Tilt; wait for Lucario’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3 and answer with OOS Bair (9f), Grab (10f), OOS Nair (11f), and OOS Uair (11f).
- After Kirby blocks Lucario’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3, pick the reachable option from OOS Bair (9f), Grab (10f), OOS Nair (11f), and OOS Uair (11f) immediately.
- Kirby should not mash after Lucario’s Forward Tilt and Down Tilt; take the landing route, escape route, or ledge route first.
- Kirby should finish stocks by breaking Lucario’s landing and recovery routes so Forward Tilt and Down Tilt does not get more neutral reps.
Actions to Avoid
- Letting Lucario start the exchange on Forward Tilt and Down Tilt terms and giving Kirby’s stage control away for free.
- Having Kirby block Lucario’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3 but never answer with OOS Bair (9f), Grab (10f), OOS Nair (11f), and OOS Uair (11f).
- Sending Kirby too deep after Lucario’s Forward Tilt and Down Tilt and letting the reset punish the chase back.
- Panicking at the ledge as Kirby and simplifying Lucario’s Forward Tilt and Down Tilt-driven advantage sequence.