ChatGPT Matchup Summary (Win Condition and Game Plan)
Link wants to stop Lucario’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3 with Up B (7f), OOS Bair (9f), Grab (10f), and OOS Nair (10f), then force Lucario back outside Down Tilt and Neutral Air to keep stage control.
In Link vs Lucario, the stable plan is to avoid playing directly into Lucario’s Down Tilt and Neutral Air and take the landing or ledge route before Lucario can reset.
The table shows that Lucario’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3 can be answered by Link’s Up B (7f), OOS Bair (9f), Grab (10f), and OOS Nair (10f), so those overcommitments should be cashed out immediately.
For Link, Lucario’s Down Tilt and Neutral Air are still hard to hit immediately out of shield, so reading the landing spot or ledge route matters more than forcing an early swing.
Full Move Frame Quick Reference
| Opponent Move | Startup | On Shield | Link OOS Candidate Moves | Barely Missed Moves |
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| Jab 1 | 5 | -16 | -15 | -14 |
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| Jab 2 | 5 | -18 | -18 | -17 |
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| Jab 3 | 9 | -23 | -22 | -21 |
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| Forward Tilt | 12/15 | -12 | -11 | -8 |
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| Up Tilt | 6 | -22/-21 | -20/-20 | -18/-17 |
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| Down Tilt | 7 | -9 | -7 | -5 |
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| Dash Attack | 7 | -28/-27 | -26/-24 | -22/-20 |
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| Forward Smash | 19 | -27/-25 | -24/-26 | -19/-21 |
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| Up Smash | 15/19 | -37/-38 | -34/-36 | -30/-31 |
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| Down Smash | 16 | -28 | -25 | -21 |
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| Neutral Air | 10/18 | -2/-2 | -1/-2 | 0/-1 |
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| Forward Air | 7 | -6 | -6 | -5 |
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| Back Air | 13 | -10/-10 | -9/-9 | -7/-7 |
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| Up Air | 10 | -10/-10 | -9/-10 | -7/-9 |
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| Down Air | 4/11 | -10/-9 | -9/-9 | -8/-8 |
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| Neutral B | 9 (+8) | -26 | -25 | -23 |
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| Side B | (9)24 | -24/-30 | -19/-27 | -10/-24 |
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| Up B | 46 | -23/-31 | -22/-31 | -19/-29 |
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| Down B | 5 (Start of Counter) | — | ||
| Grab | 7 | — | ||
| Dash Grab | 10 | — | ||
| Pivot Grab | 11 | — |
Win Condition Checklist
- Link should not play directly into Lucario’s Down Tilt and Neutral Air; wait for Lucario’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3 and answer with Up B (7f), OOS Bair (9f), Grab (10f), and OOS Nair (10f).
- After Link blocks Lucario’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3, pick the reachable option from Up B (7f), OOS Bair (9f), Grab (10f), and OOS Nair (10f) immediately.
- Link should not mash after Lucario’s Down Tilt and Neutral Air; take the landing route, escape route, or ledge route first.
- Link should finish stocks by breaking Lucario’s landing and recovery routes so Down Tilt and Neutral Air does not get more neutral reps.
Actions to Avoid
- Letting Lucario start the exchange on Down Tilt and Neutral Air terms and giving Link’s stage control away for free.
- Having Link block Lucario’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3 but never answer with Up B (7f), OOS Bair (9f), Grab (10f), and OOS Nair (10f).
- Sending Link too deep after Lucario’s Down Tilt and Neutral Air and letting the reset punish the chase back.
- Panicking at the ledge as Link and simplifying Lucario’s Down Tilt and Neutral Air-driven advantage sequence.