ChatGPT Matchup Summary (Win Condition and Game Plan)
Lucario wants to stop Chrom’s Jab, Forward Tilt, and Up Tilt with OOS Dair (7f), Grab (10f), OOS Fair (10f), and OOS Nair (13f), then force Chrom back outside Down Tilt and Neutral Air to keep stage control.
In Lucario vs Chrom, the stable plan is to avoid playing directly into Chrom’s Down Tilt and Neutral Air and take the landing or ledge route before Chrom can reset.
The table shows that Chrom’s Jab, Forward Tilt, and Up Tilt can be answered by Lucario’s OOS Dair (7f), Grab (10f), OOS Fair (10f), and OOS Nair (13f), so those overcommitments should be cashed out immediately.
For Lucario, Chrom’s Down Tilt and Neutral Air are still hard to hit immediately out of shield, so reading the landing spot or ledge route matters more than forcing an early swing.
Full Move Frame Quick Reference
| Opponent Move | Startup | On Shield | Lucario OOS Candidate Moves | Barely Missed Moves |
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| Jab | 5 | -10 |
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| Forward Tilt | 8 | -15 |
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| Up Tilt | 6 | -22 |
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| Down Tilt | 7 | -5 |
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| Dash Attack | 13 | -21 |
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| Forward Smash | 13 | -28 |
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| Up Smash | 12/13/15/17/19/22 | -29 |
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| Down Smash | 6/21 | -47/-31 |
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| Neutral Air | 6/15 | -6/-6 |
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| Forward Air | 10 | -4 |
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| Back Air | 8 | -6 |
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| Up Air | 5 | -4 |
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| Down Air | 16 | -9/-9 |
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| Neutral B | 21-260 | -15—Shieldbreak |
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| Side B | 9 | -26/-16(air) |
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| Up B | 10/39/53/** | -29 |
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| Down B | 8 (Start of Counter) | — | ||
| Grab | 7 | — | ||
| Dash Grab | 10 | — | ||
| Pivot Grab | 11 | — |
Win Condition Checklist
- Lucario should not play directly into Chrom’s Down Tilt and Neutral Air; wait for Chrom’s Jab, Forward Tilt, and Up Tilt and answer with OOS Dair (7f), Grab (10f), OOS Fair (10f), and OOS Nair (13f).
- After Lucario blocks Chrom’s Jab, Forward Tilt, and Up Tilt, pick the reachable option from OOS Dair (7f), Grab (10f), OOS Fair (10f), and OOS Nair (13f) immediately.
- Lucario should not mash after Chrom’s Down Tilt and Neutral Air; take the landing route, escape route, or ledge route first.
- Lucario should finish stocks by breaking Chrom’s landing and recovery routes so Down Tilt and Neutral Air does not get more neutral reps.
Actions to Avoid
- Letting Chrom start the exchange on Down Tilt and Neutral Air terms and giving Lucario’s stage control away for free.
- Having Lucario block Chrom’s Jab, Forward Tilt, and Up Tilt but never answer with OOS Dair (7f), Grab (10f), OOS Fair (10f), and OOS Nair (13f).
- Sending Lucario too deep after Chrom’s Down Tilt and Neutral Air and letting the reset punish the chase back.
- Panicking at the ledge as Lucario and simplifying Chrom’s Down Tilt and Neutral Air-driven advantage sequence.