ChatGPT Matchup Summary (Win Condition and Game Plan)
Lucas wants to stop Ken’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3 with Up B (1f), Grab (10f), OOS Nair (10f), and OOS Uair (10f), then force Ken back outside Up B (1) and Up B (2) to keep stage control.
In Lucas vs Ken, the stable plan is to avoid playing directly into Ken’s Up B (1) and Up B (2) and take the landing or ledge route before Ken can reset.
The table shows that Ken’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3 can be answered by Lucas’s Up B (1f), Grab (10f), OOS Nair (10f), and OOS Uair (10f), so those overcommitments should be cashed out immediately.
For Lucas, Ken’s Up B (1) and Up B (2) are still hard to hit immediately out of shield, so reading the landing spot or ledge route matters more than forcing an early swing.
Full Move Frame Quick Reference
| Opponent Move | Startup | On Shield | Lucas OOS Candidate Moves | Barely Missed Moves |
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| Jab 1 | 2 | -10 |
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| Jab 2 | 3 | -21 |
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| Jab 3 | 8 | -21 |
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| Jab (1) | 7 | -19 |
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| Jab (2) | 9/16 | -10/-6 |
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| Forward Tilt (1) | 3 | -20 |
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| Forward Tilt (2) | 8 | -8 |
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| Forward Tilt (3) | 10 | -18/-14 |
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| Up Tilt (1) | 3 | -8 |
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| Up Tilt (2) | 7 | -19 |
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| Down Tilt (1) | 2 | -9 |
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| Down Tilt (2) | 6 | -15 |
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| Dash Attack | 7 | -22 |
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| Forward Smash | 13 | -24/-21 |
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| Up Smash | 9 | -24 |
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| Down Smash | 5 | -25 |
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| Neutral Air | 6 | -2/-2, -1/-2 |
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| Forward Air | 8 | -7/-6, -7/-6 |
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| Back Air | 8 | -4/-5 |
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| Up Air | 5 | -8 |
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| Down Air | 8 | -10 |
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| Neutral B | 13 | -35/-34 |
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| Side B (1) | 8/13—38 | -25 to -30 |
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| Side B (2) | 8/13/18/23/28/33/38 | -36 |
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| Up B (1) | 6 | ** | ||
| Up B (2) | 5/6/9 | ** | ||
| Down B | 12 (+21), 12(+31), 12(+59) | -32, -33, unblockable |
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| Grab | 6 | — | ||
| Dash Grab | 9 | — | ||
| Pivot Grab | 10 | — |
Win Condition Checklist
- Lucas should not play directly into Ken’s Up B (1) and Up B (2); wait for Ken’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3 and answer with Up B (1f), Grab (10f), OOS Nair (10f), and OOS Uair (10f).
- After Lucas blocks Ken’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3, pick the reachable option from Up B (1f), Grab (10f), OOS Nair (10f), and OOS Uair (10f) immediately.
- Lucas should not mash after Ken’s Up B (1) and Up B (2); take the landing route, escape route, or ledge route first.
- Lucas should finish stocks by breaking Ken’s landing and recovery routes so Up B (1) and Up B (2) does not get more neutral reps.
Actions to Avoid
- Letting Ken start the exchange on Up B (1) and Up B (2) terms and giving Lucas’s stage control away for free.
- Having Lucas block Ken’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3 but never answer with Up B (1f), Grab (10f), OOS Nair (10f), and OOS Uair (10f).
- Sending Lucas too deep after Ken’s Up B (1) and Up B (2) and letting the reset punish the chase back.
- Panicking at the ledge as Lucas and simplifying Ken’s Up B (1) and Up B (2)-driven advantage sequence.