ChatGPT Matchup Summary (Win Condition and Game Plan)
Lucas wants to stop Toon Link’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3 with Up B (1f), Grab (10f), OOS Nair (10f), and OOS Uair (10f), then force Toon Link back outside Up B (2) and Down B to keep stage control.
In Lucas vs Toon Link, the stable plan is to avoid playing directly into Toon Link’s Up B (2) and Down B and take the landing or ledge route before Toon Link can reset.
The table shows that Toon Link’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3 can be answered by Lucas’s Up B (1f), Grab (10f), OOS Nair (10f), and OOS Uair (10f), so those overcommitments should be cashed out immediately.
For Lucas, Toon Link’s Up B (2) and Down B are still hard to hit immediately out of shield, so reading the landing spot or ledge route matters more than forcing an early swing.
Full Move Frame Quick Reference
| Opponent Move | Startup | On Shield | Lucas OOS Candidate Moves | Barely Missed Moves |
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| Jab 1 | 5 | -10 |
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| Jab 2 | 6 | -11 |
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| Jab 3 | 6 | -25 |
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| Forward Tilt | 9 | -11 |
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| Up Tilt | 8 | -11 |
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| Down Tilt | 9 | -6 |
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| Dash Attack | 7 | -13 |
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| Forward Smash | 16 | -22 |
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| Up Smash | 11 | -22 |
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| Down Smash | 9/17 | -29/-20 |
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| Neutral Air | 6/13 | -3/-4 |
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| Forward Air | 14 | -6 |
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| Back Air | 6 | -4 |
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| Up Air | 11 | -8/-9 |
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| Down Air | 17 | -17/-16 |
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| Z Air | 11 | -3 |
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| Neutral B | 18—60 | -12 to -6 |
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| Side B | 27 | -9 to -6 |
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| Up B (1) | 6… | -25 |
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| Up B (2) | 8… | — | ||
| Down B | — | — | ||
| Grab | 12 | — | ||
| Dash Grab | 14 | — | ||
| Pivot Grab | 15 | — |
Win Condition Checklist
- Lucas should not play directly into Toon Link’s Up B (2) and Down B; wait for Toon Link’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3 and answer with Up B (1f), Grab (10f), OOS Nair (10f), and OOS Uair (10f).
- After Lucas blocks Toon Link’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3, pick the reachable option from Up B (1f), Grab (10f), OOS Nair (10f), and OOS Uair (10f) immediately.
- Lucas should not mash after Toon Link’s Up B (2) and Down B; take the landing route, escape route, or ledge route first.
- Lucas should finish stocks by breaking Toon Link’s landing and recovery routes so Up B (2) and Down B does not get more neutral reps.
Actions to Avoid
- Letting Toon Link start the exchange on Up B (2) and Down B terms and giving Lucas’s stage control away for free.
- Having Lucas block Toon Link’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3 but never answer with Up B (1f), Grab (10f), OOS Nair (10f), and OOS Uair (10f).
- Sending Lucas too deep after Toon Link’s Up B (2) and Down B and letting the reset punish the chase back.
- Panicking at the ledge as Lucas and simplifying Toon Link’s Up B (2) and Down B-driven advantage sequence.