ChatGPT Matchup Summary (Win Condition and Game Plan)
Mario wants to stop Bowser’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Forward Tilt with Up B (3f), OOS Nair (6f), OOS Uair (7f), and OOS Dair (8f), then force Bowser back outside Neutral B and Side B to keep stage control.
In Mario vs Bowser, the stable plan is to avoid playing directly into Bowser’s Neutral B and Side B and take the landing or ledge route before Bowser can reset.
The table shows that Bowser’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Forward Tilt can be answered by Mario’s Up B (3f), OOS Nair (6f), OOS Uair (7f), and OOS Dair (8f), so those overcommitments should be cashed out immediately.
For Mario, Bowser’s Neutral B and Side B are still hard to hit immediately out of shield, so reading the landing spot or ledge route matters more than forcing an early swing.
Full Move Frame Quick Reference
| Opponent Move | Startup | On Shield | Mario OOS Candidate Moves | Barely Missed Moves |
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| Jab 1 | 7 | -13 |
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| Jab 2 | 9 | -9 |
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| Forward Tilt | 10 | -15 |
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| Up Tilt | 11 | -19 |
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| Down Tilt | 10/15 | -22 |
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| Dash Attack | 11 | -33 |
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| Forward Smash | 22 | -32 |
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| Up Smash | 16/37 | -27/-30/-12 |
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| Down Smash | 12/28 | -49/-34 |
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| Neutral Air | 8/14/18/** | -12 |
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| Forward Air | 11 | -9/-10 |
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| Back Air | 9 | -17 |
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| Up Air | 9 | -12 |
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| Down Air | 17 | -30 |
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| Neutral B | 23/30/37/44… | — | ||
| Side B | 6 | — | ||
| Up B (1) | 6… | -36 |
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| Up B (2) | 6… | — | ||
| Down B (1) | 11/37…/1 | — | ||
| Down B (2) | 31…/1 | — | ||
| Grab | 8 | — | ||
| Dash Grab | 11 | — | ||
| Pivot Grab | 12 | — |
Win Condition Checklist
- Mario should not play directly into Bowser’s Neutral B and Side B; wait for Bowser’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Forward Tilt and answer with Up B (3f), OOS Nair (6f), OOS Uair (7f), and OOS Dair (8f).
- After Mario blocks Bowser’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Forward Tilt, pick the reachable option from Up B (3f), OOS Nair (6f), OOS Uair (7f), and OOS Dair (8f) immediately.
- Mario should not mash after Bowser’s Neutral B and Side B; take the landing route, escape route, or ledge route first.
- Mario should finish stocks by breaking Bowser’s landing and recovery routes so Neutral B and Side B does not get more neutral reps.
Actions to Avoid
- Letting Bowser start the exchange on Neutral B and Side B terms and giving Mario’s stage control away for free.
- Having Mario block Bowser’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Forward Tilt but never answer with Up B (3f), OOS Nair (6f), OOS Uair (7f), and OOS Dair (8f).
- Sending Mario too deep after Bowser’s Neutral B and Side B and letting the reset punish the chase back.
- Panicking at the ledge as Mario and simplifying Bowser’s Neutral B and Side B-driven advantage sequence.