ChatGPT Matchup Summary (Win Condition and Game Plan)
Marth wants to stop Luigi’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3 with Up B (5f), OOS Uair (8f), OOS Fair (9f), and OOS Nair (9f), then force Luigi back outside Down Tilt and Neutral Air to keep stage control.
In Marth vs Luigi, the stable plan is to avoid playing directly into Luigi’s Down Tilt and Neutral Air and take the landing or ledge route before Luigi can reset.
The table shows that Luigi’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3 can be answered by Marth’s Up B (5f), OOS Uair (8f), OOS Fair (9f), and OOS Nair (9f), so those overcommitments should be cashed out immediately.
For Marth, Luigi’s Down Tilt and Neutral Air are still hard to hit immediately out of shield, so reading the landing spot or ledge route matters more than forcing an early swing.
Full Move Frame Quick Reference
| Opponent Move | Startup | On Shield | Marth OOS Candidate Moves | Barely Missed Moves |
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| Jab 1 | 2 | -13 |
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| Jab 2 | 3 | -12 |
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| Jab 3 | 6 | -19 |
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| Forward Tilt | 5 | -18 |
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| Up Tilt | 5 | -15 |
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| Down Tilt | 5 | -2 |
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| Dash Attack | 4/8/12/16/25 | -17 |
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| Forward Smash | 12 | -18 |
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| Up Smash | 9 | -20 |
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| Down Smash | 6/14 | -20/-12 |
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| Neutral Air | 3 | -3/-5 |
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| Forward Air | 7 | -9 |
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| Back Air | 6 | -5/-6 |
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| Up Air | 5 | -2/-4 |
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| Down Air | 10 | -8/-8 |
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| Z Air | 14 | -2 |
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| Neutral B | 17 | -17 |
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| Side B | 22 | -23 to -13/-10 |
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| Up B (1) | 8 | -79/-99 |
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| Up B (2) | 6 | ** | ||
| Down B | 10…/40 | -40 |
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| Grab | 14 | — | ||
| Dash Grab | 16 | — | ||
| Pivot Grab | 17 | — |
Win Condition Checklist
- Marth should not play directly into Luigi’s Down Tilt and Neutral Air; wait for Luigi’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3 and answer with Up B (5f), OOS Uair (8f), OOS Fair (9f), and OOS Nair (9f).
- After Marth blocks Luigi’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3, pick the reachable option from Up B (5f), OOS Uair (8f), OOS Fair (9f), and OOS Nair (9f) immediately.
- Marth should not mash after Luigi’s Down Tilt and Neutral Air; take the landing route, escape route, or ledge route first.
- Marth should finish stocks by breaking Luigi’s landing and recovery routes so Down Tilt and Neutral Air does not get more neutral reps.
Actions to Avoid
- Letting Luigi start the exchange on Down Tilt and Neutral Air terms and giving Marth’s stage control away for free.
- Having Marth block Luigi’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3 but never answer with Up B (5f), OOS Uair (8f), OOS Fair (9f), and OOS Nair (9f).
- Sending Marth too deep after Luigi’s Down Tilt and Neutral Air and letting the reset punish the chase back.
- Panicking at the ledge as Marth and simplifying Luigi’s Down Tilt and Neutral Air-driven advantage sequence.