Mii Gunner vs Squirtle

Squirtle Matchup (Mii Gunner)

Mii Gunner vs Squirtle

Mii Gunner vs Squirtle is most stable when you stop playing directly into Squirtle's Neutral Air and Forward Air, punish Jab 1 and Jab 2, and take the landing or ledge route first.

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ChatGPT Matchup Summary (Win Condition and Game Plan)

Mii Gunner wants to stop Squirtle’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3 with Up B (6f), Grab (10f), OOS Nair (11f), and Up Smash (11f), then force Squirtle back outside Neutral Air and Forward Air to keep stage control.
In Mii Gunner vs Squirtle, the stable plan is to avoid playing directly into Squirtle’s Neutral Air and Forward Air and take the landing or ledge route before Squirtle can reset.
The table shows that Squirtle’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3 can be answered by Mii Gunner’s Up B (6f), Grab (10f), OOS Nair (11f), and Up Smash (11f), so those overcommitments should be cashed out immediately.
For Mii Gunner, Squirtle’s Neutral Air and Forward Air are still hard to hit immediately out of shield, so reading the landing spot or ledge route matters more than forcing an early swing.

Full Move Frame Quick Reference

Opponent MoveStartupOn ShieldMii Gunner OOS Candidate MovesBarely Missed Moves
Jab 12-11
  • Up B (6f)
  • Grab (10f)
  • OOS Nair (11f)
  • Up Smash (11f)
  • OOS Bair (+1)
Jab 24-17
  • Up B (6f)
  • Grab (10f)
  • OOS Nair (11f)
  • Up Smash (11f)
  • OOS Bair (12f)
  • OOS Fair (15f)
  • OOS Uair (+3)
Jab 35-21
  • Up B (6f)
  • Grab (10f)
  • OOS Nair (11f)
  • Up Smash (11f)
  • OOS Bair (12f)
  • OOS Fair (15f)
  • OOS Uair (20f)
  • OOS Dair (+2)
Forward Tilt5-6
  • Up B (6f)
Up Tilt5-8
  • Up B (6f)
  • Grab (+2)
  • OOS Nair (+3)
  • Up Smash (+3)
Down Tilt8-12
  • Up B (6f)
  • Grab (10f)
  • OOS Nair (11f)
  • Up Smash (11f)
  • OOS Bair (12f)
  • OOS Fair (+3)
Dash Attack8-16
  • Up B (6f)
  • Grab (10f)
  • OOS Nair (11f)
  • Up Smash (11f)
  • OOS Bair (12f)
  • OOS Fair (15f)
Forward Smash20-19
  • Up B (6f)
  • Grab (10f)
  • OOS Nair (11f)
  • Up Smash (11f)
  • OOS Bair (12f)
  • OOS Fair (15f)
  • OOS Uair (+1)
Up Smash19/21-35
  • Up B (6f)
  • Grab (10f)
  • OOS Nair (11f)
  • Up Smash (11f)
  • OOS Bair (12f)
  • OOS Fair (15f)
  • OOS Uair (20f)
  • OOS Dair (23f)
Down Smash18-13
  • Up B (6f)
  • Grab (10f)
  • OOS Nair (11f)
  • Up Smash (11f)
  • OOS Bair (12f)
  • OOS Fair (+2)
Neutral Air4-4/-5
  • None
  • Up B (+2)
Forward Air5-3/-3
  • None
  • Up B (+3)
Back Air5…-15
  • Up B (6f)
  • Grab (10f)
  • OOS Nair (11f)
  • Up Smash (11f)
  • OOS Bair (12f)
  • OOS Fair (15f)
Up Air5-3
  • None
  • Up B (+3)
Down Air6…-14/-13
  • Up B (6f)
  • Grab (10f)
  • OOS Nair (11f)
  • Up Smash (11f)
  • OOS Bair (12f)
  • OOS Fair (+2)
Neutral B26
Side B23-18
  • Up B (6f)
  • Grab (10f)
  • OOS Nair (11f)
  • Up Smash (11f)
  • OOS Bair (12f)
  • OOS Fair (15f)
  • OOS Uair (+2)
Up B9…
Down B
Grab6
Dash Grab8
Pivot Grab9

Win Condition Checklist

  • Mii Gunner should not play directly into Squirtle’s Neutral Air and Forward Air; wait for Squirtle’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3 and answer with Up B (6f), Grab (10f), OOS Nair (11f), and Up Smash (11f).
  • After Mii Gunner blocks Squirtle’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3, pick the reachable option from Up B (6f), Grab (10f), OOS Nair (11f), and Up Smash (11f) immediately.
  • Mii Gunner should not mash after Squirtle’s Neutral Air and Forward Air; take the landing route, escape route, or ledge route first.
  • Mii Gunner should finish stocks by breaking Squirtle’s landing and recovery routes so Neutral Air and Forward Air does not get more neutral reps.

Actions to Avoid

  • Letting Squirtle start the exchange on Neutral Air and Forward Air terms and giving Mii Gunner’s stage control away for free.
  • Having Mii Gunner block Squirtle’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3 but never answer with Up B (6f), Grab (10f), OOS Nair (11f), and Up Smash (11f).
  • Sending Mii Gunner too deep after Squirtle’s Neutral Air and Forward Air and letting the reset punish the chase back.
  • Panicking at the ledge as Mii Gunner and simplifying Squirtle’s Neutral Air and Forward Air-driven advantage sequence.

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