Ness vs Greninja

Greninja Matchup (Ness)

Ness vs Greninja

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ChatGPT Matchup Summary (Win Condition and Game Plan)

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Full Move Frame Quick Reference

Opponent MoveStartupOn ShieldNess OOS Candidate MovesBarely Missed Moves
Jab 13-15
  • Up B (1f)
  • OOS Nair (8f)
  • Grab (10f)
  • Up Smash (10f)
  • OOS Fair (11f)
  • OOS Uair (11f)
  • OOS Bair (13f)
Jab 23-15
  • Up B (1f)
  • OOS Nair (8f)
  • Grab (10f)
  • Up Smash (10f)
  • OOS Fair (11f)
  • OOS Uair (11f)
  • OOS Bair (13f)
Jab 35-26
  • Up B (1f)
  • OOS Nair (8f)
  • Grab (10f)
  • Up Smash (10f)
  • OOS Fair (11f)
  • OOS Uair (11f)
  • OOS Bair (13f)
  • OOS Dair (21f)
Rapid Jab5/8/11/14...--
Rapid Jab Finisher4-39
  • Up B (1f)
  • OOS Nair (8f)
  • Grab (10f)
  • Up Smash (10f)
  • OOS Fair (11f)
  • OOS Uair (11f)
  • OOS Bair (13f)
  • OOS Dair (21f)
Forward Tilt10-14/-14
  • Up B (1f)
  • OOS Nair (8f)
  • Grab (10f)
  • Up Smash (10f)
  • OOS Fair (11f)
  • OOS Uair (11f)
  • OOS Bair (13f)
Up Tilt9-18
  • Up B (1f)
  • OOS Nair (8f)
  • Grab (10f)
  • Up Smash (10f)
  • OOS Fair (11f)
  • OOS Uair (11f)
  • OOS Bair (13f)
  • OOS Dair (+3)
Down Tilt5-12
  • Up B (1f)
  • OOS Nair (8f)
  • Grab (10f)
  • Up Smash (10f)
  • OOS Fair (11f)
  • OOS Uair (11f)
  • OOS Bair (+1)
Dash Attack7-13
  • Up B (1f)
  • OOS Nair (8f)
  • Grab (10f)
  • Up Smash (10f)
  • OOS Fair (11f)
  • OOS Uair (11f)
  • OOS Bair (13f)
Forward Smash13-26
  • Up B (1f)
  • OOS Nair (8f)
  • Grab (10f)
  • Up Smash (10f)
  • OOS Fair (11f)
  • OOS Uair (11f)
  • OOS Bair (13f)
  • OOS Dair (21f)
Up Smash12/18-23
  • Up B (1f)
  • OOS Nair (8f)
  • Grab (10f)
  • Up Smash (10f)
  • OOS Fair (11f)
  • OOS Uair (11f)
  • OOS Bair (13f)
  • OOS Dair (21f)
Down Smash11-29
  • Up B (1f)
  • OOS Nair (8f)
  • Grab (10f)
  • Up Smash (10f)
  • OOS Fair (11f)
  • OOS Uair (11f)
  • OOS Bair (13f)
  • OOS Dair (21f)
Neutral Air12-2/-4
  • Up B (1f)
Forward Air16-6
  • Up B (1f)
  • OOS Nair (+2)
Back Air5/7/11-8/-7
  • Up B (1f)
  • OOS Nair (+1)
  • Grab (+3)
  • Up Smash (+3)
Up Air7/10/13/16/19/22-12/-12
  • Up B (1f)
  • OOS Nair (8f)
  • Grab (10f)
  • Up Smash (10f)
  • OOS Fair (11f)
  • OOS Uair (11f)
  • OOS Bair (+1)
Down Air17-16
  • Up B (1f)
  • OOS Nair (8f)
  • Grab (10f)
  • Up Smash (10f)
  • OOS Fair (11f)
  • OOS Uair (11f)
  • OOS Bair (13f)
Neutral B20—60-18 to -13
  • Up B (1f)
  • OOS Nair (8f)
  • Grab (10f)
  • Up Smash (10f)
  • OOS Fair (11f)
  • OOS Uair (11f)
  • OOS Bair (13f)
Side B24(+5)-29/-28
  • Up B (1f)
  • OOS Nair (8f)
  • Grab (10f)
  • Up Smash (10f)
  • OOS Fair (11f)
  • OOS Uair (11f)
  • OOS Bair (13f)
  • OOS Dair (21f)
Up B19--
Down B (1)8 (Start of Counter)--
Down B (2)19-33/-32
  • Up B (1f)
  • OOS Nair (8f)
  • Grab (10f)
  • Up Smash (10f)
  • OOS Fair (11f)
  • OOS Uair (11f)
  • OOS Bair (13f)
  • OOS Dair (21f)
Grab10--
Dash Grab13--
Pivot Grab14--

Win Condition Checklist

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Actions to Avoid

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