ChatGPT Matchup Summary (Win Condition and Game Plan)
Palutena wants to stop Samus’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Forward Tilt with OOS Nair (8f), Grab (10f), OOS Bair (11f), and OOS Fair (12f), then force Samus back outside Neutral Air and Down Air to keep stage control.
In Palutena vs Samus, the stable plan is to avoid playing directly into Samus’s Neutral Air and Down Air and take the landing or ledge route before Samus can reset.
The table shows that Samus’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Forward Tilt can be answered by Palutena’s OOS Nair (8f), Grab (10f), OOS Bair (11f), and OOS Fair (12f), so those overcommitments should be cashed out immediately.
For Palutena, Samus’s Neutral Air and Down Air are still hard to hit immediately out of shield, so reading the landing spot or ledge route matters more than forcing an early swing.
Full Move Frame Quick Reference
| Opponent Move | Startup | On Shield | Palutena OOS Candidate Moves | Barely Missed Moves |
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| Jab 1 | 3 | -10 |
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| Jab 2 | 6 | -15 |
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| Forward Tilt | 8 | -17/-16/-15 |
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| Up Tilt | 15 | -12 |
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| Down Tilt | 6 | -26 |
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| Dash Attack | 8 | -23 |
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| Forward Smash | 10 | -29/-28 |
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| Up Smash | 11/15/19/23/27 | -24 |
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| Down Smash | 9/17 | -27/-18 |
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| Neutral Air | 8/14 | -5/-5/-6 |
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| Forward Air | 6/12/18/24/30 | -12/-12/-11 |
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| Back Air | 9 | -9/-9/-10 |
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| Up Air | 5… | -16/-16/-15 |
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| Down Air | 17 | -8/-7 |
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| Z Air | 8/16 | -4/-3 |
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| Neutral B | 3(+13) | -17 to +4 |
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| Side B (1) | 18 | -26 |
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| Side B (2) | 21 | -24 |
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| Up B (1) | 4… | — | ||
| Up B (2) | 5… | — | ||
| Down B | 33 | — | ||
| Grab | 15 | — | ||
| Dash Grab | 17 | — | ||
| Pivot Grab | 18 | — |
Win Condition Checklist
- Palutena should not play directly into Samus’s Neutral Air and Down Air; wait for Samus’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Forward Tilt and answer with OOS Nair (8f), Grab (10f), OOS Bair (11f), and OOS Fair (12f).
- After Palutena blocks Samus’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Forward Tilt, pick the reachable option from OOS Nair (8f), Grab (10f), OOS Bair (11f), and OOS Fair (12f) immediately.
- Palutena should not mash after Samus’s Neutral Air and Down Air; take the landing route, escape route, or ledge route first.
- Palutena should finish stocks by breaking Samus’s landing and recovery routes so Neutral Air and Down Air does not get more neutral reps.
Actions to Avoid
- Letting Samus start the exchange on Neutral Air and Down Air terms and giving Palutena’s stage control away for free.
- Having Palutena block Samus’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Forward Tilt but never answer with OOS Nair (8f), Grab (10f), OOS Bair (11f), and OOS Fair (12f).
- Sending Palutena too deep after Samus’s Neutral Air and Down Air and letting the reset punish the chase back.
- Panicking at the ledge as Palutena and simplifying Samus’s Neutral Air and Down Air-driven advantage sequence.