ChatGPT Matchup Summary (Win Condition and Game Plan)
Peach wants to stop Lucas’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3 with Up B (7f), OOS Nair (8f), OOS Bair (9f), and Grab (10f), then force Lucas back outside Down Tilt and Forward Air to keep stage control.
In Peach vs Lucas, the stable plan is to avoid playing directly into Lucas’s Down Tilt and Forward Air and take the landing or ledge route before Lucas can reset.
The table shows that Lucas’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3 can be answered by Peach’s Up B (7f), OOS Nair (8f), OOS Bair (9f), and Grab (10f), so those overcommitments should be cashed out immediately.
For Peach, Lucas’s Down Tilt and Forward Air are still hard to hit immediately out of shield, so reading the landing spot or ledge route matters more than forcing an early swing.
Full Move Frame Quick Reference
| Opponent Move | Startup | On Shield | Peach OOS Candidate Moves | Barely Missed Moves |
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| Jab 1 | 2 | -13 |
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| Jab 2 | 3 | -13 |
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| Jab 3 | 6 | -19 |
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| Forward Tilt | 7 | -10/-8 |
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| Up Tilt | 4/7 | -18 |
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| Down Tilt | 3 | -6 |
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| Dash Attack | 13 | -15/-12 |
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| Forward Smash | 14 | -21 |
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| Up Smash | 28/30 | -54 |
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| Down Smash | 20/29/39 | -12 |
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| Neutral Air | 7…/26 | -10/-9 |
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| Forward Air | 9 | -3/-2 |
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| Back Air | 15 | -5/-4/-6 |
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| Up Air | 7 | -3 |
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| Down Air | 10/18/26/34 | -14/-13 |
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| Z Air | 9 | -2 |
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| Neutral B | 40-92 | -14 to -5 |
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| Side B | 21 | -24 |
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| Up B (1) | 20 | — | ||
| Up B (2) | 1/4/6/8/10/12/14/17/20/23/26/29 | -21 |
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| Down B | 19 (7 is start of absorb) | +0 |
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| Grab | 12 | — | ||
| Dash Grab | 14 | — | ||
| Pivot Grab | 15 | — |
Win Condition Checklist
- Peach should not play directly into Lucas’s Down Tilt and Forward Air; wait for Lucas’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3 and answer with Up B (7f), OOS Nair (8f), OOS Bair (9f), and Grab (10f).
- After Peach blocks Lucas’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3, pick the reachable option from Up B (7f), OOS Nair (8f), OOS Bair (9f), and Grab (10f) immediately.
- Peach should not mash after Lucas’s Down Tilt and Forward Air; take the landing route, escape route, or ledge route first.
- Peach should finish stocks by breaking Lucas’s landing and recovery routes so Down Tilt and Forward Air does not get more neutral reps.
Actions to Avoid
- Letting Lucas start the exchange on Down Tilt and Forward Air terms and giving Peach’s stage control away for free.
- Having Peach block Lucas’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3 but never answer with Up B (7f), OOS Nair (8f), OOS Bair (9f), and Grab (10f).
- Sending Peach too deep after Lucas’s Down Tilt and Forward Air and letting the reset punish the chase back.
- Panicking at the ledge as Peach and simplifying Lucas’s Down Tilt and Forward Air-driven advantage sequence.