ChatGPT Matchup Summary (Win Condition and Game Plan)
Pit wants to stop Lucario’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3 with Up Smash (6f), OOS Nair (7f), Grab (10f), and OOS Bair (13f), then force Lucario back outside Down Tilt and Neutral Air to keep stage control.
In Pit vs Lucario, the stable plan is to avoid playing directly into Lucario’s Down Tilt and Neutral Air and take the landing or ledge route before Lucario can reset.
The table shows that Lucario’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3 can be answered by Pit’s Up Smash (6f), OOS Nair (7f), Grab (10f), and OOS Bair (13f), so those overcommitments should be cashed out immediately.
For Pit, Lucario’s Down Tilt and Neutral Air are still hard to hit immediately out of shield, so reading the landing spot or ledge route matters more than forcing an early swing.
Full Move Frame Quick Reference
| Opponent Move | Startup | On Shield | Pit OOS Candidate Moves | Barely Missed Moves |
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| Jab 1 | 5 | -16 | -15 | -14 |
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| Jab 2 | 5 | -18 | -18 | -17 |
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| Jab 3 | 9 | -23 | -22 | -21 |
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| Forward Tilt | 12/15 | -12 | -11 | -8 |
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| Up Tilt | 6 | -22/-21 | -20/-20 | -18/-17 |
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| Down Tilt | 7 | -9 | -7 | -5 |
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| Dash Attack | 7 | -28/-27 | -26/-24 | -22/-20 |
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| Forward Smash | 19 | -27/-25 | -24/-26 | -19/-21 |
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| Up Smash | 15/19 | -37/-38 | -34/-36 | -30/-31 |
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| Down Smash | 16 | -28 | -25 | -21 |
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| Neutral Air | 10/18 | -2/-2 | -1/-2 | 0/-1 |
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| Forward Air | 7 | -6 | -6 | -5 |
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| Back Air | 13 | -10/-10 | -9/-9 | -7/-7 |
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| Up Air | 10 | -10/-10 | -9/-10 | -7/-9 |
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| Down Air | 4/11 | -10/-9 | -9/-9 | -8/-8 |
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| Neutral B | 9 (+8) | -26 | -25 | -23 |
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| Side B | (9)24 | -24/-30 | -19/-27 | -10/-24 |
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| Up B | 46 | -23/-31 | -22/-31 | -19/-29 |
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| Down B | 5 (Start of Counter) | — | ||
| Grab | 7 | — | ||
| Dash Grab | 10 | — | ||
| Pivot Grab | 11 | — |
Win Condition Checklist
- Pit should not play directly into Lucario’s Down Tilt and Neutral Air; wait for Lucario’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3 and answer with Up Smash (6f), OOS Nair (7f), Grab (10f), and OOS Bair (13f).
- After Pit blocks Lucario’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3, pick the reachable option from Up Smash (6f), OOS Nair (7f), Grab (10f), and OOS Bair (13f) immediately.
- Pit should not mash after Lucario’s Down Tilt and Neutral Air; take the landing route, escape route, or ledge route first.
- Pit should finish stocks by breaking Lucario’s landing and recovery routes so Down Tilt and Neutral Air does not get more neutral reps.
Actions to Avoid
- Letting Lucario start the exchange on Down Tilt and Neutral Air terms and giving Pit’s stage control away for free.
- Having Pit block Lucario’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3 but never answer with Up Smash (6f), OOS Nair (7f), Grab (10f), and OOS Bair (13f).
- Sending Pit too deep after Lucario’s Down Tilt and Neutral Air and letting the reset punish the chase back.
- Panicking at the ledge as Pit and simplifying Lucario’s Down Tilt and Neutral Air-driven advantage sequence.