ChatGPT Matchup Summary (Win Condition and Game Plan)
Ivysaur wants to stop Wolf’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3 with Grab (10f), OOS Bair (10f), OOS Nair (10f), and OOS Dair (14f), then force Wolf back outside Neutral Air and Forward Air to keep stage control.
In Ivysaur vs Wolf, the stable plan is to avoid playing directly into Wolf’s Neutral Air and Forward Air and take the landing or ledge route before Wolf can reset.
The table shows that Wolf’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3 can be answered by Ivysaur’s Grab (10f), OOS Bair (10f), OOS Nair (10f), and OOS Dair (14f), so those overcommitments should be cashed out immediately.
For Ivysaur, Wolf’s Neutral Air and Forward Air are still hard to hit immediately out of shield, so reading the landing spot or ledge route matters more than forcing an early swing.
Full Move Frame Quick Reference
| Opponent Move | Startup | On Shield | Ivysaur OOS Candidate Moves | Barely Missed Moves |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Jab 1 | 4 | -14 |
|
|
| Jab 2 | 4 | -14 |
|
|
| Jab 3 | 4 | -25 |
|
|
| Forward Tilt | 8/9 | -19 |
| |
| Up Tilt | 7 | -18 |
| |
| Down Tilt | 5 | -16 |
|
|
| Dash Attack | 11 | -16 |
|
|
| Forward Smash | 20 | -10 |
| |
| Up Smash | 13/20 | -29/-19 |
| |
| Down Smash | 14/21 | -19/-18/-14/-12 |
|
|
| Neutral Air | 7 | -4/-5 |
| |
| Forward Air | 7 | -6 |
| |
| Back Air | 13 | -11/-10 |
| |
| Up Air | 7 | -5 |
| |
| Down Air | 16 | -14/-14 |
|
|
| Neutral B | 15/16 | -24 |
|
|
| Side B | 18 | ** | ||
| Up B | 18… | -24 |
|
|
| Down B | 6 | -19 |
| |
| Grab | 6 | — | ||
| Dash Grab | 8 | — | ||
| Pivot Grab | 9 | — |
Win Condition Checklist
- Ivysaur should not play directly into Wolf’s Neutral Air and Forward Air; wait for Wolf’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3 and answer with Grab (10f), OOS Bair (10f), OOS Nair (10f), and OOS Dair (14f).
- After Ivysaur blocks Wolf’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3, pick the reachable option from Grab (10f), OOS Bair (10f), OOS Nair (10f), and OOS Dair (14f) immediately.
- Ivysaur should not mash after Wolf’s Neutral Air and Forward Air; take the landing route, escape route, or ledge route first.
- Ivysaur should finish stocks by breaking Wolf’s landing and recovery routes so Neutral Air and Forward Air does not get more neutral reps.
Actions to Avoid
- Letting Wolf start the exchange on Neutral Air and Forward Air terms and giving Ivysaur’s stage control away for free.
- Having Ivysaur block Wolf’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3 but never answer with Grab (10f), OOS Bair (10f), OOS Nair (10f), and OOS Dair (14f).
- Sending Ivysaur too deep after Wolf’s Neutral Air and Forward Air and letting the reset punish the chase back.
- Panicking at the ledge as Ivysaur and simplifying Wolf’s Neutral Air and Forward Air-driven advantage sequence.