ChatGPT Matchup Summary (Win Condition and Game Plan)
Pyra wants to stop Lucina’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Forward Tilt with Grab (10f), Up B (13f), OOS Fair (14f), and OOS Nair (14f), then force Lucina back outside Down Tilt and Neutral Air to keep stage control.
In Pyra vs Lucina, the stable plan is to avoid playing directly into Lucina’s Down Tilt and Neutral Air and take the landing or ledge route before Lucina can reset.
The table shows that Lucina’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Forward Tilt can be answered by Pyra’s Grab (10f), Up B (13f), OOS Fair (14f), and OOS Nair (14f), so those overcommitments should be cashed out immediately.
For Pyra, Lucina’s Down Tilt and Neutral Air are still hard to hit immediately out of shield, so reading the landing spot or ledge route matters more than forcing an early swing.
Full Move Frame Quick Reference
| Opponent Move | Startup | On Shield | Pyra OOS Candidate Moves | Barely Missed Moves |
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| Jab 1 | 5 | -16 |
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| Jab 2 | 4 | -19 |
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| Forward Tilt | 8 | -15 |
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| Up Tilt | 6 | -19 |
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| Down Tilt | 7 | -8 |
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| Dash Attack | 13 | -21 |
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| Forward Smash | 10 | -31 |
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| Up Smash | 13 | -41/-35 |
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| Down Smash | 6/21 | -42/-24 |
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| Neutral Air | 6/15 | -4/-3 |
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| Forward Air | 6 | -6 |
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| Back Air | 7 | -5 |
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| Up Air | 5 | -3 |
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| Down Air | 9/11 | -9/-9 |
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| Neutral B | 19—79 | -23 to Shieldbreak |
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| Side B | 9 | -26/-16 |
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| Up B | 5 | — | ||
| Down B | 6 (Start of Counter) | — | ||
| Grab | 6 | — | ||
| Dash Grab | 9 | — | ||
| Pivot Grab | 10 | — |
Win Condition Checklist
- Pyra should not play directly into Lucina’s Down Tilt and Neutral Air; wait for Lucina’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Forward Tilt and answer with Grab (10f), Up B (13f), OOS Fair (14f), and OOS Nair (14f).
- After Pyra blocks Lucina’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Forward Tilt, pick the reachable option from Grab (10f), Up B (13f), OOS Fair (14f), and OOS Nair (14f) immediately.
- Pyra should not mash after Lucina’s Down Tilt and Neutral Air; take the landing route, escape route, or ledge route first.
- Pyra should finish stocks by breaking Lucina’s landing and recovery routes so Down Tilt and Neutral Air does not get more neutral reps.
Actions to Avoid
- Letting Lucina start the exchange on Down Tilt and Neutral Air terms and giving Pyra’s stage control away for free.
- Having Pyra block Lucina’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Forward Tilt but never answer with Grab (10f), Up B (13f), OOS Fair (14f), and OOS Nair (14f).
- Sending Pyra too deep after Lucina’s Down Tilt and Neutral Air and letting the reset punish the chase back.
- Panicking at the ledge as Pyra and simplifying Lucina’s Down Tilt and Neutral Air-driven advantage sequence.