Pyra vs Zelda

Zelda Matchup (Pyra)

Pyra vs Zelda

Pyra vs Zelda is most stable when you refuse to overrespect the opponent's projectiles and setups and keep pressure on the body through shield discipline and forward movement.

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ChatGPT Matchup Summary (Win Condition and Game Plan)

Pyra is strongest at explosive heavy hits and punishing trades, while Zelda is strongest at layered projectile pressure and stage-control traps.
If you let the opponent pin you down with projectiles and setups, they get to own spacing. The stable plan is to shield well, keep advancing, and pressure the body anyway.
The table shows reliable shield punishes on Rapid Jab Finisher, Up B, Up Smash, Neutral B, and Down Smash, with Grab, Up B, OOS Fair, and OOS Nair showing up most often as the clean ways to take the turn back.
Do not force shield punishes on the relatively safer choices like Neutral Air, Forward Air, and Back Air. It is usually better to read the landing or ledge route and punish the next action.

Full Move Frame Quick Reference

Opponent MoveStartupOn ShieldPyra OOS Candidate MovesBarely Missed Moves
Rapid Jab4/6/8/10…
Rapid Jab Finisher6-32
  • Grab (10f)
  • Up B (13f)
  • OOS Fair (14f)
  • OOS Nair (14f)
  • Up Smash (15f)
  • OOS Uair (16f)
  • OOS Bair (19f)
  • OOS Dair (20f)
Jab4/7-13
  • Grab (10f)
  • Up B (13f)
  • OOS Fair (+1)
  • OOS Nair (+1)
  • Up Smash (+2)
  • OOS Uair (+3)
Forward Tilt12-13/-10
  • Grab (10f)
  • Up B (+3)
Up Tilt7-15
  • Grab (10f)
  • Up B (13f)
  • OOS Fair (14f)
  • OOS Nair (14f)
  • Up Smash (15f)
  • OOS Uair (+1)
Down Tilt5-10
  • Grab (10f)
  • Up B (+3)
Dash Attack6-18
  • Grab (10f)
  • Up B (13f)
  • OOS Fair (14f)
  • OOS Nair (14f)
  • Up Smash (15f)
  • OOS Uair (16f)
  • OOS Bair (+1)
  • OOS Dair (+2)
Forward Smash16/18/20/22/24-16
  • Grab (10f)
  • Up B (13f)
  • OOS Fair (14f)
  • OOS Nair (14f)
  • Up Smash (15f)
  • OOS Uair (16f)
  • OOS Bair (+3)
Up Smash9/13/17/21/25/29/34-25
  • Grab (10f)
  • Up B (13f)
  • OOS Fair (14f)
  • OOS Nair (14f)
  • Up Smash (15f)
  • OOS Uair (16f)
  • OOS Bair (19f)
  • OOS Dair (20f)
Down Smash5/13-24/-17
  • Grab (10f)
  • Up B (13f)
  • OOS Fair (14f)
  • OOS Nair (14f)
  • Up Smash (15f)
  • OOS Uair (16f)
  • OOS Bair (+2)
  • OOS Dair (+3)
Neutral Air6/10/14/18/22-10/-9
  • None
  • Grab (+1)
Forward Air6-8/-12
  • None
  • Grab (+2)
Back Air6-8/-12
  • None
  • Grab (+2)
Up Air14-6/-8
  • None
Down Air14-6/-9
  • None
Neutral B11…-25
  • Grab (10f)
  • Up B (13f)
  • OOS Fair (14f)
  • OOS Nair (14f)
  • Up Smash (15f)
  • OOS Uair (16f)
  • OOS Bair (19f)
  • OOS Dair (20f)
Side B44—70-18 to -10
  • Grab (10f)
  • Up B (+3)
Up B6/35-29 (ground) // -19 (air)
  • Grab (10f)
  • Up B (13f)
  • OOS Fair (14f)
  • OOS Nair (14f)
  • Up Smash (15f)
  • OOS Uair (16f)
  • OOS Bair (19f)
  • OOS Dair (+1)
Down B26/32/38/46/59-127-19 to -15
  • Grab (10f)
  • Up B (13f)
  • OOS Fair (14f)
  • OOS Nair (14f)
  • Up Smash (15f)
  • OOS Uair (+1)
Grab10
Dash Grab13
Pivot Grab14

Win Condition Checklist

  • Do not chase the opponent’s projectiles and setups by themselves; shield well, push the line forward, and keep pressure on the body.
  • After blocking Rapid Jab Finisher, Up B, Up Smash, Neutral B, and Down Smash, answer immediately with Grab, Up B, OOS Fair, and OOS Nair so the opponent cannot keep the turn.
  • Do not force immediate retaliation on Neutral Air, Forward Air, and Back Air; take the landing route, escape route, or ledge direction first.
  • Prioritize kills through landing traps and ledge pressure while keeping your positional advantage intact.

Actions to Avoid

  • Focusing only on clearing the opponent’s projectiles and setups while shrinking your own chances to touch the body.
  • Swinging after every blocked Neutral Air, Forward Air, and Back Air and feeding the whiff punish or reset the opponent wants.
  • Chasing too deep for the kill and exposing Pyra’s own recovery or defensive weakness.
  • Panic-jumping or panic-rolling from the ledge and making the opponent’s ledge trap too simple.

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