ChatGPT Matchup Summary (Win Condition and Game Plan)
Ryu is strongest at midrange disjoints backed by projectile support, while Hero is strongest at midrange disjoints backed by projectile support.
The more this stays only about projectile trades, the more both sides get to set their preferred pace. The side that steps forward first after forcing hesitation usually takes control.
The table shows reliable shield punishes on Down Smash, Forward Smash, Forward Tilt (2), Up Smash, and Side B, with Up B, OOS Nair, OOS Uair, and Up Smash showing up most often as the clean ways to take the turn back.
Do not force shield punishes on the relatively safer choices like Up Air. It is usually better to read the landing or ledge route and punish the next action.
Full Move Frame Quick Reference
| Opponent Move | Startup | On Shield | Ryu OOS Candidate Moves | Barely Missed Moves |
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| Jab 1 | 6 | -15 |
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| Jab 2 | 6 | -15 |
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| Jab 3 | 7 | -25 |
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| Forward Tilt (1) | 9 | -21 |
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| Forward Tilt (2) | 8 | -31 |
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| Up Tilt | 8 | -23 |
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| Down Tilt | 6 | -19 |
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| Dash Attack | 21 | -16 |
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| Forward Smash | 17 | -36 (-26) |
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| Up Smash | 13 | -29 (-19) |
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| Down Smash | 9/20 | -37/-26 (-29/-18) |
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| Neutral Air | 8 | -6 |
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| Forward Air | 14 | -7 |
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| Back Air | 18 | -9 |
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| Up Air | 6 | -5 |
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| Down Air | 16 | -12 |
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| Neutral B | [10(+7)] [11(+25)] [16(2/8/14/20)] | -22/-28/-24 |
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| Side B | [9/13(+7)] [10/15(+16)] [43/50/72/75/81] | -12/-25/-29 |
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| Up B | [4(+3)] [6/13/20/27(+13)] [39/49/59/69/79/89] | ** | ||
| Down B | — | — | ||
| Grab | 6 | — | ||
| Dash Grab | 9 | — | ||
| Pivot Grab | 10 | — |
Win Condition Checklist
- Do not settle for projectile trades alone; step forward and touch the body as soon as you make the opponent pause.
- After blocking Down Smash, Forward Smash, Forward Tilt (2), Up Smash, and Side B, answer immediately with Up B, OOS Nair, OOS Uair, and Up Smash so the opponent cannot keep the turn.
- Do not force immediate retaliation on Up Air; take the landing route, escape route, or ledge direction first.
- Finish stocks through repeated landing traps and ledge pressure instead of overcommitting to single hard reads in center stage.
Actions to Avoid
- Drifting back forever around projectile trades, then giving up the time needed to pressure the body.
- Swinging after every blocked Up Air and feeding the whiff punish or reset the opponent wants.
- Overchasing for the kill and giving up the positional lead you already earned.
- Panic-jumping or panic-rolling from the ledge and making the opponent’s ledge trap too simple.