ChatGPT Matchup Summary (Win Condition and Game Plan)
Samus wants to stop Lucario’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3 with Up B (4f), OOS Uair (8f), OOS Fair (9f), and Grab (10f), then force Lucario back outside Neutral Air and Down B to keep stage control.
In Samus vs Lucario, the stable plan is to avoid playing directly into Lucario’s Neutral Air and Down B and take the landing or ledge route before Lucario can reset.
The table shows that Lucario’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3 can be answered by Samus’s Up B (4f), OOS Uair (8f), OOS Fair (9f), and Grab (10f), so those overcommitments should be cashed out immediately.
For Samus, Lucario’s Neutral Air and Down B are still hard to hit immediately out of shield, so reading the landing spot or ledge route matters more than forcing an early swing.
Full Move Frame Quick Reference
| Opponent Move | Startup | On Shield | Samus OOS Candidate Moves | Barely Missed Moves |
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| Jab 1 | 5 | -16 | -15 | -14 |
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| Jab 2 | 5 | -18 | -18 | -17 |
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| Jab 3 | 9 | -23 | -22 | -21 |
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| Forward Tilt | 12/15 | -12 | -11 | -8 |
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| Up Tilt | 6 | -22/-21 | -20/-20 | -18/-17 |
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| Down Tilt | 7 | -9 | -7 | -5 |
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| Dash Attack | 7 | -28/-27 | -26/-24 | -22/-20 |
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| Forward Smash | 19 | -27/-25 | -24/-26 | -19/-21 |
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| Up Smash | 15/19 | -37/-38 | -34/-36 | -30/-31 |
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| Down Smash | 16 | -28 | -25 | -21 |
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| Neutral Air | 10/18 | -2/-2 | -1/-2 | 0/-1 |
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| Forward Air | 7 | -6 | -6 | -5 |
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| Back Air | 13 | -10/-10 | -9/-9 | -7/-7 |
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| Up Air | 10 | -10/-10 | -9/-10 | -7/-9 |
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| Down Air | 4/11 | -10/-9 | -9/-9 | -8/-8 |
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| Neutral B | 9 (+8) | -26 | -25 | -23 |
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| Side B | (9)24 | -24/-30 | -19/-27 | -10/-24 |
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| Up B | 46 | -23/-31 | -22/-31 | -19/-29 |
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| Down B | 5 (Start of Counter) | — | ||
| Grab | 7 | — | ||
| Dash Grab | 10 | — | ||
| Pivot Grab | 11 | — |
Win Condition Checklist
- Samus should not play directly into Lucario’s Neutral Air and Down B; wait for Lucario’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3 and answer with Up B (4f), OOS Uair (8f), OOS Fair (9f), and Grab (10f).
- After Samus blocks Lucario’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3, pick the reachable option from Up B (4f), OOS Uair (8f), OOS Fair (9f), and Grab (10f) immediately.
- Samus should not mash after Lucario’s Neutral Air and Down B; take the landing route, escape route, or ledge route first.
- Samus should finish stocks by breaking Lucario’s landing and recovery routes so Neutral Air and Down B does not get more neutral reps.
Actions to Avoid
- Letting Lucario start the exchange on Neutral Air and Down B terms and giving Samus’s stage control away for free.
- Having Samus block Lucario’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3 but never answer with Up B (4f), OOS Uair (8f), OOS Fair (9f), and Grab (10f).
- Sending Samus too deep after Lucario’s Neutral Air and Down B and letting the reset punish the chase back.
- Panicking at the ledge as Samus and simplifying Lucario’s Neutral Air and Down B-driven advantage sequence.