ChatGPT Matchup Summary (Win Condition and Game Plan)
Snake wants to stop Lucas’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3 with OOS Dair (6f), Grab (10f), OOS Bair (10f), and Up Smash (11f), then force Lucas back outside Forward Air and Back Air to keep stage control.
In Snake vs Lucas, the stable plan is to avoid playing directly into Lucas’s Forward Air and Back Air and take the landing or ledge route before Lucas can reset.
The table shows that Lucas’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3 can be answered by Snake’s OOS Dair (6f), Grab (10f), OOS Bair (10f), and Up Smash (11f), so those overcommitments should be cashed out immediately.
For Snake, Lucas’s Forward Air and Back Air are still hard to hit immediately out of shield, so reading the landing spot or ledge route matters more than forcing an early swing.
Full Move Frame Quick Reference
| Opponent Move | Startup | On Shield | Snake OOS Candidate Moves | Barely Missed Moves |
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| Jab 1 | 2 | -13 |
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| Jab 2 | 3 | -13 |
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| Jab 3 | 6 | -19 |
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| Forward Tilt | 7 | -10/-8 |
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| Up Tilt | 4/7 | -18 |
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| Down Tilt | 3 | -6 |
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| Dash Attack | 13 | -15/-12 |
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| Forward Smash | 14 | -21 |
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| Up Smash | 28/30 | -54 |
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| Down Smash | 20/29/39 | -12 |
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| Neutral Air | 7…/26 | -10/-9 |
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| Forward Air | 9 | -3/-2 |
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| Back Air | 15 | -5/-4/-6 |
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| Up Air | 7 | -3 |
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| Down Air | 10/18/26/34 | -14/-13 |
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| Z Air | 9 | -2 |
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| Neutral B | 40-92 | -14 to -5 |
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| Side B | 21 | -24 |
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| Up B (1) | 20 | — | ||
| Up B (2) | 1/4/6/8/10/12/14/17/20/23/26/29 | -21 |
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| Down B | 19 (7 is start of absorb) | +0 |
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| Grab | 12 | — | ||
| Dash Grab | 14 | — | ||
| Pivot Grab | 15 | — |
Win Condition Checklist
- Snake should not play directly into Lucas’s Forward Air and Back Air; wait for Lucas’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3 and answer with OOS Dair (6f), Grab (10f), OOS Bair (10f), and Up Smash (11f).
- After Snake blocks Lucas’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3, pick the reachable option from OOS Dair (6f), Grab (10f), OOS Bair (10f), and Up Smash (11f) immediately.
- Snake should not mash after Lucas’s Forward Air and Back Air; take the landing route, escape route, or ledge route first.
- Snake should finish stocks by breaking Lucas’s landing and recovery routes so Forward Air and Back Air does not get more neutral reps.
Actions to Avoid
- Letting Lucas start the exchange on Forward Air and Back Air terms and giving Snake’s stage control away for free.
- Having Snake block Lucas’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Jab 3 but never answer with OOS Dair (6f), Grab (10f), OOS Bair (10f), and Up Smash (11f).
- Sending Snake too deep after Lucas’s Forward Air and Back Air and letting the reset punish the chase back.
- Panicking at the ledge as Snake and simplifying Lucas’s Forward Air and Back Air-driven advantage sequence.