ChatGPT Matchup Summary (Win Condition and Game Plan)
Roy is terrifying only once he gets chest-to-chest. If Wii Fit Trainer keeps the exchange one step farther out with Sun Salutation, Header, and retreating Back Air, Roy is forced to swing with much worse reward.
That makes spacing more important than passive shielding. Show Sun Salutation to interrupt the run-in, turn Roy’s jump into a Back Air check, and use the ledge pushback to create the rare safe Deep Breathing or Header moments after Roy has already been displaced.
The table shows strong punish windows on Down Smash, Forward Smash, Up Smash, Side B, and Up Tilt, and those should be answered with Up B, OOS Bair, OOS Uair, or Grab. Safer aerials like Neutral Air, Forward Air, and Back Air do not require an instant challenge; taking away the landing or ledge route is usually cleaner.
For kills, Deep Breathing Back Air, Header, and ledge Sun Salutation cover Roy’s forced recovery choices better than trying to brawl him down in center stage.
Full Move Frame Quick Reference
| Opponent Move | Startup | On Shield | Wii Fit Trainer OOS Candidate Moves | Barely Missed Moves |
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| Jab | 5 | -9/-12 |
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| Forward Tilt | 8 | -13/-16/-17 |
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| Up Tilt | 6 | -21/-25 |
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| Down Tilt | 7 | -3/-7 |
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| Dash Attack | 13 | -17/-21 |
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| Forward Smash | 13 | -27/-29/-32 |
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| Up Smash | 12/15/17/19/22 | -29 |
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| Down Smash | 6/21 | -46/-49/-30/-33 |
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| Neutral Air | 6/15 | -6/-6/-5/-6 |
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| Forward Air | 10 | -4/-5 |
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| Back Air | 8 | -5/-6 |
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| Up Air | 5 | -4/-5 |
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| Down Air | 16 | -9/-10 |
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| Neutral B | 21-260 | -15 to Shieldbreak |
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| Side B | 9 | -26/-16(air) |
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| Up B | 9/11… | ** | ||
| Down B | 8 (Start of Counter) | — | ||
| Grab | 7 | — | ||
| Dash Grab | 10 | — | ||
| Pivot Grab | 11 | — |
Win Condition Checklist
- Keep Roy out of chest-to-chest range with Sun Salutation, Header, and retreating Back Air.
- After blocking Down Smash, Forward Smash, Up Smash, Side B, and Up Tilt, punish immediately with Up B, OOS Bair, OOS Uair, or Grab.
- Do not swing on Neutral Air, Forward Air, or Back Air just because they touched shield; take the landing or ledge route first.
- Finish stocks through Deep Breathing Back Air, Header, and ledge Sun Salutation once Roy has been pushed off.
Actions to Avoid
- Sitting still in shield and letting Roy stay glued to his best range.
- Forcing Deep Breathing in front of Roy and turning it into a dash-in signal.
- Swinging after every blocked Neutral Air, Forward Air, or Back Air and letting Roy keep close-range pressure.
- Overcommitting offstage when the ledge trap against Roy’s forced recovery was already enough.